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How to determine par?
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I want to hear others' thoughts on this subject to help prove to someone esle what par should be on a given hole.This such person claims that a Par 3 doesn't have to be reachable for a putt at birdie…Continue
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Just won these sweet Buzzzes at our Ice Bowl Poker Night fundraiser and figured it would be a great start to my collection. Also about to get a deal on some first run buzzzes from a friend. Just out…Continue
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David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"I didn't know that about ball golf. I thought a 90 was 19-over for anyone.
To clarify, the "my par" I mentioned is how I play the hole, not how I keep score."
Steve West replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"You say par isn't important, yet you have your own "pars" for the courses you play. That term "my own par" describes what everyone wants to know. What should I score if I don't mess up? Did I do…"
David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Thanks, Steve. Lots of good information there.
I don't want to give the impression that I'm disparaging the color system. If it were more widely and consistently applied, I'd love it. Which is also true about…"
Steve West replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"1/e (~37%) has some information theory things going for it, and because that's enough players to tell me that a hole can be played that way (=par) without a miracle happening. Par is better than average, because average includes all the…"
David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Like the other aspects of "par", the color system for skill levels is not universally applied. I'm not even sure if it's commonly applied. And even less known by disc golfers.
I'm a white level player,…"
Steve West replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Hence, the different colored tees for different skill levels."
David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Fair enough. There are a number of theories out there. The PDGA rules definition is pretty vague; they have a chart based on distance and foliage that's a little better. Chuck Kennedy touts SA (Scoring Average). I go with…"
David Muntean III replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"and guys let's remember that although it is obvious that Par is irrelevant to total raw score and that all 3s is easier for score keeping, the discussion is on "how to determine par?" and not "does par even matter?". but I…"
David Muntean III replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Yes...great hole Steve. I was able to 3 it once as well by throwing over everything off the tee. But with the rarity of seeing a 3 recorded (even among the elite pros), I feel that the 3 should be considered slightly more than a birdie which makes…"
David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"One big difference in disc golf is that par is set to such widely varying standards. Of the two courses I play most, I average about 15 under par on 1, about 7 over par on the other. On the former you want to do much more than beat par;…"
Jim Coonradt replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Well said Steve. And if anyone out there is watching any of the Masters tournament in ball golf you will see that they show scores vs. par on the leaderboard. If any of you were to go to Augusta National and shoot par I am certain that you would be…"
Steve Belliveau replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"Hey Dave,Do you remember hole 13 in the Cliff Stevens tourney. The avarage score was 4.4 there. I saw a lefty advanced player make a twenty footer for three.I thought that was a birdie."
Steve West replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"This discussion is better than most, in that a lot of the points are about what par is good for, not just how it should be defined: We have:
- a scorekeeping shorthand
- for the scoring of players who arrive late for a tournament…"
David Sauls replied to David Muntean III's discussion How to determine par?"The "all par 3" formula is more a scorekeeping shorthand than any true use of "par". I'm one who keeps score this way, regardless of course, because it's almost always the easiest way to keep it in my head, or…"
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