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I played one of must-be top 10 favorite HOLES today, not whole course. I played it 2 years ago as well. #18, Tocobaga. It's just sweet, check the pictures. Not well designed, kind of unfair and tight, but the shot is sick, it's beautiful, you throw AT the bay if you are RHBH and try to hyzer back and not flip over. Just awesome. There was a sea-creature exoskeleton on top of the basket even, and the beach within the 10m circle.

"Where's Joe, Joe are you here?"- Priceless.

Big shout-out to Clearwater Disc Golf Store. I went in there first thing this morning after again searching for the crystal buzz I lost last night, and still didn't find. She hooked me up w/ some free cool stuff, some of which is already on my car. I also bought a wraith, Zone (LOVIN' IT) and a Golden Retriever. It's the coolest if not the largest disc golf store in existence.

I've already played these first two courses but they were worth playing again.

***Clearwater, FL- Cliff Stevens:***Front 9 on one side of the road, back 9 the other. Many, many water hazards. Unsafe to enter water due to alligators and snakes, have yet to see a gator though. Mostly well marked* but at the end it gets confusing, even though I had played it before, and there seems to be some new holes I didn't bother to figure out. Very busy at prime disc golfing hours. Home to 12x world champion. If you have to ask his name, why are you here? Back is longer, more open, but with more water and it's actually somewhat easier if you can bomb. Front has a few very tight, or low, shots. One basket right above a wooden barrier you need to clear or have a steep putt. Ample cement tees, seconds from NE Coachman park and Clearwater Disc Golf Store.

***St.Petersburg, FL- Tocobaga:***Basically a walk through an exotic jungle finishing on the shores of the bay. many plants unlike seen anywhere else. Lizards, birds. Well marked (but for finding hole #10) little signs help along the way, mandos clear and visible, signs very durable. Cement tees, course map. If you don't lose a disc playing alone, pat yourself on the back and buy yourself a drink. Tall palmettos will devour plastic, and you. Use bright colors and spotters. Several semi-open and long holes, mostly short to medium and very very tight. Some holes with no real fairway. Well maintained, highly scenic and calming. Beware jerks who speed into the park where you have to cross yet the speed limit clearly says 10mph.

North Port Charlotte, FL- North Charlotte Regional:Again, tropical jungle, tight fairways, good luck not losing a disc. This one gets silly-tight every other hole, almost like two different people designed it. Some holes are plainly absurd, I'm not sure why, could be due to limited amount of trees allowed to be cut. Often there is that 'one little tree' that blocks any realistic shot from being thrown. Righties MUST throw sidearm to get down the fairway on several holes, but a tree on the right near the tee is usually there to force you to keep your arm in so tight you may just hit your chest while standing from the left corner of the tee trying to release it! Half the holes are pretty neat, tight and tough to get, but fair and balanced. Unique. Well marked (have to walk up to find the basket most are blind, but no problem finding tees/course). If I had the strength, I'd have literally moved the tees a few feet either way to fix some holes myself.

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Comment by mr ed on October 31, 2008 at 5:16pm
hey now,Port Charlotte Regional Park was once called The Preserve.Nice sign at one time,during the recent renovation it disappeared.Cement tees went in after Hurricane Charley '04.Local citizens voted down the last tax for infrastructure,hence Parks Dept. was cut badly.Almost impossible to get them to listen/understand about a disc golf club/league. a fair review of our local course,play agian sometime.Sorry to have missed you playing the other day.Peace
Comment by skinner on October 31, 2008 at 3:47pm
Hey Ben, I posted a few pics of the island hole I was reffering to above at Pawhuska, OK (The Lodge) on Kyle Jacob Smalling's personal comment wall. I would recommend to you to try and swing by OK again to play that course on your way home (maybe this track could be 1000). The course is still a bit rough (it is not even two years old...no concrete tee pads...it does have stone tee stones like the Flight Line track in Pauls Valley, OK) and it is a pay-to-play course (privately owned...five dollars).

Here are some addies to a photobucket site showing pictures of The Lodge track(s):

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/lodge%20jam/

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/twisted%20at%20the%20lodge/

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/twisted%20flyer%20open%2008/

See below for a pic of a tee sign at the Lodge...

Comment by Kyle Jacob Smalling on October 30, 2008 at 11:36pm
Island holes seem crazy skinner...
Comment by skinner on October 30, 2008 at 10:28pm
I really like the Zone as well...I got a few months ago from Dynamic Discs at a tourney...black prototype...it is my go to disc for the pitch and putt courses in Tulsa...I threw it in the water at the island hole at Pawhuska, OK (#17 at The Lodge) during a tournament and put a $5 bounty on it for the people that were in the water getting all of the discs out…it was found a few hours later and gladly paid to get it back.

BTW Ben, did you get a chance to play the Pawhuska DG track while going through OK?
Comment by Kyle Jacob Smalling on October 30, 2008 at 9:36pm
It sounds like those golden retrievers are good in florida cuz of gators and snakes

those disc diving kids would get eaten there

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