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So, I was kind of hesitant to post on this because you hear a lot about "message board distance" or what people say online that they can throw, which is usually a total exaggeration. I know that there was a time when I was doing that, when I thought I could throw over 400 feet but I probably was only getting 375 with regularity. Well last year I was finally getting myself up to 420+ on the occasional pop. It wasn't consistent but if I threw it up there *just right* I could get that.

Well I went down to Bowling Green, Kentucky for BG Ams and the weather was nice. My arm was loose. And I was throwing over 470 feet. I wasn't trusting myself completely because, well, what if the distances were measured wrong? What if maybe I was doing something perfect that I wouldn't be able to replicate? Well, it turns out that those worries were kind of unfounded. I was out at Vienna Park today doing field work with my friend Evan and was straight bombing.

After doing the field work we played a round from the shorts. I overdrove hole 1 (408 feet) and crashed the fence behind it (425 feet) on the fly. We played another round from the long tees after that. Hole 1 from the long tees is another 70 feet. I reached pin high. Hole 11 is 410 feet, I overdrove it on a straight shot with no turn easily. Went around and got back to hole 1 again, and reached it for the second time.

Overall my performance down in Bowling Green, Kentucky was absolutely horrible. I had the worst putting weekend of my life, missing over 25 putts from 20 to 25 feet. But I think I came back with at least one new weapon in my bag. Right now its like a toy I can't stop playing with. Hopefully it helps me out over the course of the summer season this year.

Now... to relearn to putt...

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Comment by Bernd Wender on April 9, 2008 at 10:40am
Actually I never thought much about nose up or nose down. When I started playing disc golf 16 years ago, I was basically an ultimate player trying something different. Like so may other people coming form ultimate, I tended to throw golf disc with a slight to moderate tendency to an air bounce. Later we learned to throw them straight and this is what I have done since this early stage of learning how to throw a golf disc correctly. But As I said, this is 16 years ago. I'm curious how throwing style improved. BTW I didn't meet a lot of people who could throw 450+ feet in Europe. Chris Max Voigt is an exception to this and some of the top Swedish and Finnish players, but that's that. I would be very glad if I could make 400 on a regular basis.
Comment by Chris Wojciechowski on April 8, 2008 at 6:40pm
I guess it just depends on your standards. Until I'm hitting 1000+ I'm going to consider myself subpar. I just don't find anything satisfying about any round where I don't play 1000+ golf. If I hit 1000 it means I didn't miss short putts, didn't take stupid mental strokes, and didn't do anything egregiously bad during the round. If I'm below 1000? It means I made some damn stupid mistake(s).

I guess for me, right now, that means 9 out of every 10 rounds, if not more, are unsatisfactory... but yeah, that does feel about right.
Comment by Chris Wojciechowski on April 8, 2008 at 2:01pm
Yeah I didn't mean to be insulting, and I don't mean it sucks... but the way I look at it if you're under 1000 you're still missing too many putts per round. Thats the difference every single round for me between a 950-70 rated round and a 1000+ rated round: missed 20 footers.
Comment by Chris Wojciechowski on April 8, 2008 at 1:30pm
Bernd - It is odd because you hear from a lot of top players that overpowering the disc and getting its nose down is important, but if you start nose down you're going to turn things over a LOT easier, what you need to be able to do is start it with the nose *SLIGHTLY* up and overpower it to bring the nose down. It seems counterintuitive but it seems to be working for me.
Comment by Chris Wojciechowski on April 8, 2008 at 1:29pm
I agree with Ben here, `Cent. Besides, I don't think 991 is any good. Personally I think I suck at disc golf. Someone can't say he's good at disc golf until he's at least a 1010 level player in my opinion. I'm a long ways away from being good at this sport.
Comment by Ben Calhoun on April 8, 2008 at 12:53pm
You dont need to throw 450' on many courses..and if you cant putt you cant win those courses (ask anyone, i am the expert on missed putts)
Comment by Bernd Wender on April 8, 2008 at 12:40pm
Never heard about this nose up style but it's definitely worth a try.
Comment by Chris Wojciechowski on April 8, 2008 at 10:25am
The key has been nose up throwing. (don't know how much you know about technical terms: nose is the leading edge of the disc, as opposed to wing which is the edge furthest from your grip) I'm throwing it so hard that were I throwing it flat and level it would turn over and burn into the ground. But by putting up the nose on a slight angle it resists the turn a lot longer into the flight.

This has picked me up from struggling to get 430 at very most to 470+. I confirmed it last night working with my friend Evan doing that field work, he wasn't getting over 370-80 and after 15-20 hucks getting used to it he was reaching 410+. So it seems to be about right.
Comment by Bernd Wender on April 8, 2008 at 9:47am
Hi Chris! Any explanation for this explosion? 470 feet sounds quite impressing to me. Have you changed your technique or grip or has this just happened?

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