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On the last blog I forgot to mention the first three courses were on one day and the other 3 were the next day, not all 6 on one day!

Big thanks to Sheila Kirkham and Bill & Sue from Two Gray Hares. Sheila put me up for 2 nights, fed me, disc and called Bill & Sue for me. Thanks to Don also for the snacks.

Bill & Sue put me up last night at their home at Two Gray Hares, a private course they run right between Picuris Pueblo and Sipapu, I played the first round with both of them and the 3rd with Bill.

I have already played Sipapu in the past.


Albuquerque, NM- Roosevelt:We got rained out at doubles, well the locals mostly quit right away but we kept playing for awhile. It uses 9 baskets to make 18 holes (18 cement tees). There are apparently tons of other layouts unmarked. In a very green grassy park with some nice hills, tall mature trees but no rough, no water hazard, no desert 'feel'. Semi-short, with some holes being under 200' but also a few near 400'. The layout can make it tough to play when 2 groups on converging on the same basket from different directions at the same time. Watch out for meth heads (inside joke).

Santa Fe, NM- Arroyo Chamisos:Another desert course full of low shrubs to toss over, with almost no trees to hit besides those. Very well marked, the locals have spray painted the trail to make sure you cannot get lost, there are signs at every tee (3 per hole) and next tee waymarkers under the basket! Also a map at the 1st tee. Ashphalt, rubber and natural tees. Sort of long, with a few holes over 500' and not many really short holes. It crosses an arroyo several times, which was filling up rapidly as finishes the last hole. Unsafe in heavy rain.

Santa Fe, NM- Ashbaugh:Begins wide open along the edge of a field with a few trees on the sides. Green grassy fairways, not well marked due to vandalism. Grass tees were a joke in the downpour, some with deep puddles. The streets nearby were flowing with water, waves going up over sidewalks and some cars stuck. Has some length and a water hazard.


Vadito, NM- Two Gray Hares:3 sets of rubber tees and all with a tee sign. Farm-course, playing near a creek in the beginning on a small hillside with lots of thick bushes and rough. Some blind holes to toss over tall bushes. A good mix of lengths, with a few near 450', many near 280' and a few very short holes. A razor wire fence borders some holes as OB, as well as that creek and a tiny but fast moving irrigation ditch. Poles with disc-catching wire cages are provided. Easy to navigate with signs and maps available. A few long open holes to finish. Distance control is the key here. Recommend warming up here before Sipapu, which is too tiring of a course to play anything after for most people.

Vadito, NM- Sipapu:Very steep and physically demanding mountain course on a ski hill at over 8,000ft elevation. It will be chilly here in the summer often. 3 sets of tees well marked, the longs have rubber the others are dirt. Not very long, but very technical with tunnels and sharp doglegs up, down and sideways along very steep hills. A river is in play on 3 holes. 20 holes course now, with #20 being the best place to start and finish on #19. #18 is 550', downhill, through a 25-30' wide tunnel of pine trees, and if you go over the top you can soar all the way down to the lodge twice as far down. The sharp doglegs on hills make it pretty tough, especially for me because I have no disc I can flip hard at this elevation. Wear sturdy grippy shoes, bring lots of water.

Picuris Pueblo, NM- Picuris Pueblo:High desert course with almost no trees, lots of sand and rocks and a few big hills on the sides to lose a disc down. We lost 3 total, 2 on the same hole that weren't even bad shots. The typical shot is to throw a sky-zer over the bushes and crash down near the basket/fairway, hoping not to land in one of the many bushes. It has a few very long holes. A road/fence come into play OB. Markers point the way but no 'signs'. Rock/dirt tee pads were wicked bad when wet, I tore them apart with the run up.

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Comment by eric beich on September 2, 2008 at 10:14am
Bill and Sue is good peeps. and even though I know you've been there before, Isn't Sipapu a killer?!
Is Picuris Pueblo the new course right near Sipapu ? or is that one farther away ?

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