The last time I got to play I did really good for me, I had the new Stingray and I could get it to fly straight and by the end of the day I was getting some distance with it. I went out today and was out for 15 min and the rain started, I played on because I wont get to go again for a week. Trouble is the same disc I was happy with last time out didnt act like the same disc. I could not get close to the basket and I could not get any distance at all. I tryed different grips and even tryed to toss sidearm it was just a really bad day. played two rounds of 9 and called it a day. I didnt keep score I cant count that high!