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There's definitely a huge difference between what I played and what they get to play at the USDGC every year. No ropes, slightly different layout, no signs. Tomorrow will be my first NC courses, playing Renny Gold around noon with course designer/constructor Stan McDaniel.

Rock Hill, SC- Boyd Hill:Begins nice enough with 5 semi-open hillside holes with one short downhill shot toward a creek and then one longer uphill shot over. Clean and well maintained. Well marked- tee signs for the most part and arrows on the baskets. BRAND NEW cement tees- half still fenced in to protect them. I did not find it dirty like all other reviews said, but I did have the same issue with the design of the several woods holes and the double mando that all other reviewers had. Maybe it's been cleaned up by the same folks who put the new tee pads in. Ends with a series of also nice, hillside and creekside holes, one a par-4 with a narrow landing area between woods and creek. Needs some bridges to cross safely (when wet like this morning I nearly fell twice climbing across and my Golden Retriever fell out once, had to drive back from Winthrop when I realized to search for it). The only problem is it seems like what should have been a 12-15 hole course was jammed in to make 18. Two woods holes tee in a criss-cross pattern right across each other's fairway. Hole #6 has the worst use of mando I've ever seen- a 3-disc wide gap within reach of the front of the teepad on a 280' downhill shot that then crosses a creek lined with bushes. You basically have to hit it or catch it in your hand as you let go into the tree. Enough with the mandos please. Then a few tight, pointless woods holes. Overall fine if you play 1-5, 11-18.

Rock Hill, SC- Winthrop Gold: I played it off the 2007 map, and didn't know what was going on there. It took 15 minutes to find the first hole (not sure it was the right first hole), due to directions saying first tee by the shack, but I didn't know that was the shack way up around the lake and is actually called 'the shack' and not the little shack building down by the big 'Winthrop Disc Golf' sign! Add to that the baskets #'s not matching the holes on the map and it can be real confusing to get started. No signs for the gold layout, and baskets don't match the holes for either layout (there is a marked, permanent Lakeside layout with some of it's own tees and baskets, some shared, I guess). It would be really helpful to have maps provided there or more signs, and the right baskets being in the right places. So it took 3 hours to play of course. Long, long long. Who doesn't already know what this course is like? Minus the ropes and some pin placements. No explanation needed. Scenic, well groomed, beside a lake, around some campus buildings w/ some hills, roads and parking lot OB's and quite challenging. Wind a major factor. Left me without the energy to face the Lakeside layout, there's time for that later this week if I want to.

Rock Hill, SC- Fewell:Short, short short city park- longest hole not 200', shortest is literally 65'. Some hills, a few doglegs, a few in woods and a few open. Well marked, and with an optional set of long tees, dirt. Old Mach-1's. Great for kids, 1-disc only rounds.

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Comment by Terry "the Pirate" Calhoun on November 25, 2008 at 8:09pm
Ah, man, I wish I could be playing those with you. I bet you would get me by about 15 strokes on Winthrop Gold. It has to be about as tough and long as Deis Hill was.

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