Sorry for teasing you on your thread about golf vs disc golf. I was doing it in light-hearted fun, but you got so much of it, I could see your frustration. See the last comment I left there for my real feelings in the matter. I don't like calling golf ball golf either, but as I primarily disc golf, if I say golf people think I'm talking about disc golf so I need some distinction. I proposed calling golf traditional golf. It sounds a lot less stupid than ball golf to me.